

We The People: Speaking Across the Faith Divide
“But the Bible clearly says…”
How many times have you heard that?
About abortion. Immigration. LGBTQ+ people. Women's roles. Politics.
What if you've spent your life being told what Christians must believe, but never learned how to question those interpretations?
And what happens when those arguments begin shaping laws, political movements, and public life, not just in the United States, but around the world?
On November 13, I'm hosting a special two-hour Sacred Slope Virtual Lab with John Fugelsang, New York Times bestselling author of Separation of Church and Hate, and Pastor Joe Smith.
I named John's book The Sacred Slope's first Book of the Year because I believe his work is exceptionally important.
John does something we desperately need more of: he brings the Bible, history, and humor into mainstream conversations about religion and politics. He doesn't shy away from Scripture. He knows how to engage with it.
And I want more of us to learn how to do that.
John will share the biblical arguments and historical insights he thinks people most need to understand right now.
Joe, who once preached fundamentalist theology and is now an open and affirming pastor, will help us explore what actually changes someone's mind.
And I'll bring the communications perspective: how to have better conversations, build trust, amplify underrepresented voices, and work with people already doing good in their communities.
This is not another podcast interview.
It's an interactive learning experience with practical exercises, 30 minutes of live Q&A, and a recording for those who can't attend.
For pastors, creators, journalists, organizers, people questioning the faith they inherited, and anyone who wants to understand how religion shapes our world.
I hope you'll join us.