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Beyond the Ban - Episode 1 with Joel Hines & Mark Ong

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​Taking social media away doesn't take away the need for connection.

​The conversation around Australia's social media age restrictions often focuses on what young people will no longer be able to access.

​But there is another question worth asking:

​What will they turn to instead?

​Young people don't go online simply because they have access to an app.

​They go looking for friendship, belonging, identity, status, validation, entertainment and direction.

​For boys especially, the search for direction can take them into places adults may not see until the influence has already taken hold.

​So what happens when one of the places where young people were finding those things is removed?

​Does the need disappear?

​Or does it simply move somewhere else?

​Meet the Guests

​Joel Hines is the founder of Being Human and a youth development practitioner working at the intersection of connection, wellbeing, education and human development.

​A former occupational therapist, school principal and facilitator, Joel has spent more than two decades working with young people, educators, parents and community organisations.

​His work has included programs with organisations such as The Man Cave, Rites of Passage Institute and Movember, helping young people develop emotional literacy, resilience, relationships and a stronger sense of self.

​He is also the author of Holding Space and Holding Space for Your Son, and the creator of the THRIVE framework.

​His work gives him a particularly useful perspective on a question that is often missing from the social media debate: What are young people actually looking for when they go online?

​We will be joined by our youth guest, Mark Ong, a 2nd year student at the University of Melbourne. Together, we’ll uncover how the ban has really changed young people’s lives.

​What we'll explore

  1. ​What happens when the platform disappears?

    • ​Does removing social media remove the harm — or simply move young people's needs somewhere else

  2. ​Where do boys go looking for a map?

    • ​Boys don't always encounter harmful online figures because they're inherently bad. Sometimes they're looking for answers, identity and direction.

    • ​What happens when those searches move into less visible corners of the internet?

  3. ​What are young people missing in the first place?

    • ​The debate often focuses on what young people are losing. But what if the bigger question is what they needed before they went online?

  4. ​Will boys experience the restrictions differently?

    • ​The under-16 restrictions treat young people as one broad group. But boys and girls can experience online culture, belonging and social pressure differently.

    • ​Is anyone planning for that?

  5. ​What should replace what we're taking away?

    • ​If governments restrict access to social media, what needs to exist alongside those restrictions?

    • ​More programs? Better communities? New forms of belonging?

  6. ​And what's coming next?

    • ​If young people are moving away from social media, where will their attention and need for connection go next?

    • ​Could AI become part of that picture?

​Who should attend?

​This conversation is for people who work with, care about or design for young people:

  • ​Parents and carers

  • ​Educators and school leaders

  • ​Youth organisations and youth workers

  • ​Community builders

  • ​Researchers and policymakers

  • ​People working in youth wellbeing and digital safety

  • ​Anyone trying to understand how young people will build connection in a changing digital world

​You don't need to work in technology to join the conversation.

​If young people are part of your work, this conversation is for you.

​About NARU

​NARU is exploring what safe digital community can look like for young people in a world where the way they connect online is changing.

​We believe young people still need places to build friendships, find belonging, learn from their peers and participate in communities.

​The question is what those spaces should look like.

​That means listening to the people closest to the issue, young people, parents, educators, youth organisations, researchers and community leaders.

​This conversation is part of that work.

​Learn more about NARU →

Conversations about young people and with young people on belonging, safety and what comes next.
Hosted By
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