

De-risking the Dragon, embracing the Elephant
The hosts:
Mark Kahn, Omnivore
Divya Murthy, OysterBay
What is this Ripple about?
China might be the global leader in climate tech, but it will inevitably treat Europe as a vassal state. By building an equal partnership with India, Europe can secure its future and create a world we all want to live in.
Why this topic timely or urgent in 2026
America has lost the plot and become a hegemonic predator state. China wants to bury the EU in exports, completing the deindustrialization of Europe. Meanwhile, India recently signed a balanced trade treaty with the EU, which European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen has called “the mother of all deals”.
Key questions or challenges being explored
How can European startups engage with India as a customer, as a supplier, and as a research partner?
Why is India better than China for potential partnership?
But I’ve heard the following (very dated) thing about India! Isn’t it too (fill in the blank - chaotic, corrupt, inefficient, etc)?
The key tension or debate at the heart of this discussion
Who would get the most value from attending this Ripple?
Any European startup or VC investor